Replacing rear frame rails on a 1966
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Replacing rear frame rails on a 1966
Anyone out there replace or repair the rear frame rails on this car??? I am trying to save this 1966! Any input appreciated, Anthony
Re: Replacing rear frame rails on a 1966
Are you speaking about the body frame rails that run from the rear main frame body mounts over the top of the rear axle back to the rear shackles? Or the main frame it self ?
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Re: Replacing rear frame rails on a 1966
Yes I am refering o the rails that go under the trunk, the main frame rails are good.
Re: Replacing rear frame rails on a 1966
I've been debating how/when to do that also. My Toro is so rotted, anyone with a brain would call it a parts car...but of course I've got so much into it I can't let it go. My trunk floor and the box-section reinforcements under the trunk are so bad I could push a cat through the rust holes. All that has to be cut out on my vehicle.
I'm toying with the idea of using the rear section of a '71-'78 frame including the rear axle. Advantages would be coil springs/control arms instead of stupid leaf springs; and no horizontal shock absorbers. I figure I'd weld it to the existing 3/4 frame at or near the end, and "invent" rubber bushings to support it similar to how it would have been on the '71--'78 body.
I have not checked into track width; or even the width of the newer frame section. I suppose that "anything can be welded to anything" but ideally there'd be a minimum of adapter flanges and such.
I'm toying with the idea of using the rear section of a '71-'78 frame including the rear axle. Advantages would be coil springs/control arms instead of stupid leaf springs; and no horizontal shock absorbers. I figure I'd weld it to the existing 3/4 frame at or near the end, and "invent" rubber bushings to support it similar to how it would have been on the '71--'78 body.
I have not checked into track width; or even the width of the newer frame section. I suppose that "anything can be welded to anything" but ideally there'd be a minimum of adapter flanges and such.
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In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011. - Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Re: Replacing rear frame rails on a 1966
Hi Shurkey,
I am reasonably certain the track width is the same up to the final 78 model. Since the front end is basically identical it stands to reason it would be the same in back.
Not sure how practical your idea is, but if it works, it sounds like an excellent approach.
I hope to design and built a bolt-in independent suspension one of these years... don't hold your breath, but it is something I will probably begin to seriously investigate late next year for my 2011-2012 winter project. If it works out it might be something I might offer as a product. My current thinking is to tie it into the existing Leaf Spring mount points - assuming I can make it work. And of course this might be much as the Caterpillar suggests - nothing more than a pipe dream. We'll see... First I have to get my '69 on the road.
I am reasonably certain the track width is the same up to the final 78 model. Since the front end is basically identical it stands to reason it would be the same in back.
Not sure how practical your idea is, but if it works, it sounds like an excellent approach.
I hope to design and built a bolt-in independent suspension one of these years... don't hold your breath, but it is something I will probably begin to seriously investigate late next year for my 2011-2012 winter project. If it works out it might be something I might offer as a product. My current thinking is to tie it into the existing Leaf Spring mount points - assuming I can make it work. And of course this might be much as the Caterpillar suggests - nothing more than a pipe dream. We'll see... First I have to get my '69 on the road.
I have my Fuel Injected Toronado. Life is good! 



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- Years Owned: My first Toronado was a 1968 W-34 with the bucket seats and center console... (weeps gently) It was a New England rustbucket in 1982 after less than 14 years. So sad. But it is what infected me and before I knew it I had another '68, a '69, a '70 and eventually inherited a friend's '67 and another friends '73. After buying my brand new Grand Prix in 1988 I retired the last of my Toronados and pulled the 455 I had rebuilt along the way and put it into storage in a friend's barn where it is to this day.
In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011. - Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Re: Replacing rear frame rails on a 1966
Looks like the track width is very close - enough to allow one to consider grafting a 71-78 rear onto a first gen car. The difference is about a quarter inch. Oddly, there appears to be about .4" difference in front with the Gen1 cars being slightly wider. Go figure. I thought they were identical but the control arm/knuckle changes probably account for the difference.
I have my Fuel Injected Toronado. Life is good! 



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