CS-130 Alternator Upgrade

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Years Owned: My first Toronado was a 1968 W-34 with the bucket seats and center console... (weeps gently) It was a New England rustbucket in 1982 after less than 14 years. So sad. But it is what infected me and before I knew it I had another '68, a '69, a '70 and eventually inherited a friend's '67 and another friends '73. After buying my brand new Grand Prix in 1988 I retired the last of my Toronados and pulled the 455 I had rebuilt along the way and put it into storage in a friend's barn where it is to this day.
In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
Location: Gig Harbor, WA

CS-130 Alternator Upgrade

Postby xgecko » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:22 am

I thought it might be worthwhile to mention that it is rather easy to upgrade our old style alternators to internally regulated units that deliver strong voltage at idle.

I went through this exercise when I found that my alternator could not deliver voltage reliably at low speeds especially when my electric fans kicked in. The solution was to purchase an alternator for a 1988 Chevrolet Caprice with the Olds 307. You will have to reclock it to move the terminals to the correct place so you do not get interference, but this is an easy task accomplished by loosening the through-bolts and turning the housing to match.

This upgrade ensures that you have maximum charging voltage no matter what your engine speed is and it significantly increases the reliability by eliminating the external regulator. I highly recommend this upgrade and it is indistinguishable from the original alternator from what I recall.

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You will need a conversion kit to wire it up but it is simple to implement. Here is one option:

http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/cs-130.shtml
I have my Fuel Injected Toronado. Life is good! 8-)
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CS-130 Alternator Upgrade

Postby bcroe » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:45 pm

xgecko wrote:I thought it might be worthwhile to mention that it is rather easy to upgrade our old style alternators to internally regulated units that deliver strong voltage at idle.

I went through this exercise when I found that my alternator could not deliver voltage reliably at low speeds especially when my electric fans kicked in. The solution was to purchase an alternator for a 1988 Chevrolet Caprice with the Olds 307. You will have to reclock it to move the terminals to the correct place so you do not get interference, but this is an easy task accomplished by loosening the through-bolts and turning the housing to match.

This upgrade ensures that you have maximum charging voltage no matter what your engine speed is and it significantly increases the reliability by eliminating the external regulator. I highly recommend this upgrade and it is indistinguishable from the original alternator from what I recall.

Image
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/USL0/3351103/01468.oap?year=1988&make=Chevrolet&model=Caprice&vi=1037089&ck=Search_01468_1037089_2538&pt=01468&ppt=C0330

You will need a conversion kit to wire it up but it is simple to implement. Here is one option:

http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/cs-130.shtml

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I recommend it as well. The new alt will also eliminate radio interference
from the reg arcing contact. I don't use a conversion kit; the old reg and much
of its wiring can be scrapped. The main output wire might need an upgrade
to a heavier gauge, depending on the alternator. The wire from the GEN
indicator light now goes direct to the alt start connection. And the alt sense wire
goes to wherever the main battery wire starts splitting into individual circuits;
again that connection may be left over from the old reg. Bruce Roe

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Years Owned: My first Toronado was a 1968 W-34 with the bucket seats and center console... (weeps gently) It was a New England rustbucket in 1982 after less than 14 years. So sad. But it is what infected me and before I knew it I had another '68, a '69, a '70 and eventually inherited a friend's '67 and another friends '73. After buying my brand new Grand Prix in 1988 I retired the last of my Toronados and pulled the 455 I had rebuilt along the way and put it into storage in a friend's barn where it is to this day.
In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
Location: Gig Harbor, WA

Re: CS-130 Alternator Upgrade

Postby xgecko » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:57 pm

I used a kit mostly out of convenience as it provided the connector I needed to connect the wire to the alternator. You bypass the regulator with a simple jumper if you don't want to do much rewiring. It is working great for me, my fans kick in and there is no voltage drop whatsoever.
I have my Fuel Injected Toronado. Life is good! 8-)
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