I thought my car was overheating at a red light, but as it turns out it was my brakes smoking. Both fronts drums were absolutely scorching.
Any advice or tips?
Overheated front brakes
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1977 Cutly
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Overheated front brakes
1966 Toronado, 1992 5.0 Mustang notchback w/T-56 6spd, TOA #1059
"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
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waterzap
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Re: Overheated front brakes
One of my friends had this problem with his Eldorado. Loosen the hoses from the calipers and see if any fluid comes out. His hoses were plugged up, almost nothing came out. Just had to put a new hose in. If both of yours are grabbing, could be something higher up, like an obstruction with the proportioning valve. I would start with the hoses though.
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1977 Cutly
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Re: Overheated front brakes
waterzap wrote:I would start with the hoses though.
That really sounds like a fine idea. I can replace the brittle hoses and the old nasty fluid in one shot.
1966 Toronado, 1992 5.0 Mustang notchback w/T-56 6spd, TOA #1059
"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
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1977 Cutly
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Re: Overheated front brakes
It was stuck in place today until the brakes cooled. It wouldnt go forwards or reverse.
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"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
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waterzap
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Re: Overheated front brakes
Whole brake job is in store for you. New springs, new shoes, new hoses.
Drum brakes dont have a proportioning valve, the only other thing is the master cylinder.
Drum brakes dont have a proportioning valve, the only other thing is the master cylinder.
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Re: Overheated front brakes
How is the pedal feel?
Were you doing stops from highway speed or just around town?
You probably know that the drum brakes were considered a weakness in the early Toro's, although a well set-up drum system should work passably. just don't expect it to be like your daily driver with 4 wheel discs that weighs 1/3 less.
Were you doing stops from highway speed or just around town?
You probably know that the drum brakes were considered a weakness in the early Toro's, although a well set-up drum system should work passably. just don't expect it to be like your daily driver with 4 wheel discs that weighs 1/3 less.
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1977 Cutly
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Re: Overheated front brakes
They felt tight.... I was doing about fifty for fifteen miles or so. I wonder if they were dragging the whole time?
1966 Toronado, 1992 5.0 Mustang notchback w/T-56 6spd, TOA #1059
"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
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1977 Cutly
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Re: Overheated front brakes
I just spoke with Kanter and discovered the reason why hey discontinued the '66 11 inch disc conversion was because of difficulties.
Back to sourcing used parts for disc brake conversions I guess
Back to sourcing used parts for disc brake conversions I guess
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"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
"Aftermarket parts are simply the beginning of a very expensive search for the next weakest link in your drivetrain. You heard that here first." -MKing
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waterzap
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Re: Overheated front brakes
For around $300 you can probably replace the whole brake system. New or rebuilt caliper and booster. Shoes, springs, cylinders on all wheels. Might still have drums, but will work much better.
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Re: Overheated front brakes
1977 Cutly wrote:I just spoke with Kanter and discovered the reason why hey discontinued the '66 11 inch disc conversion was because of difficulties.
Back to sourcing used parts for disc brake conversions I guess
What difficulties did they speak of?
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