Toronado.org

I enjoyed the latest article in the Driver but I wanted to make a note of correction in the article on ID'ing the W-34 cars. In 1970, the wheel arch stripes were not only black or white but also blue, gold, or even red.

These are listed in section O, page 36 of the 1970 E-body product information manual and I've owned original cars with gold and blue stripes.

There is a paint stripe/exterior color combination code chart also on page 39 of the same section.

For instance, I own a Platinum GT with a blue interior and blue stripes. Blue stripes were only available on Platinum, Porcelain White, Azure Blue and Viking Blue cars. Red was only available on Porcelain White, Platinum, or Grenadier Red cars--though I've never run across red stripes.

White and Black were available on any of the body colors offered.

Gold stripes were offered in combination with 10 of the exterior body colors--mostly with the green, brown and gold exterior shades.

Hope this helps.

Oooo Carmen This is good, I'll get with you over the phone .... as I want all this in the Driver.

I will state that everything I have in the database with the exception of one unit with blue GT strips is black or white that may be because they are the most prevalent of the colors.

Sounds good Bill--but I'm working 80 hours over the next week so it'll have to be after next Wednesday.

I always look forward to shootin' the shyt!

586-596-0428

I also really enjoyed the articles on the W34 cars! I have a 1970 GT that was originally azure blue, how do I determine the color of the stripes due to the fact that the car has been repainted and the stripes are now gone?

Try looking over Automotive Mileposts webpage. You'll have to find an original sales brochure or some other source to get the correct color, but they seemed to have certain combinations, at least for the GTs. There's quite a bit of info here for all Gen I Toros, so look through the pages. I found it pretty helpful.

http://automotivemileposts.com/toronado ... 970gt.html

GT package included: Color-Keyed Dual Wide/Narrow Stripes Outlining the Rectilinear Wheel Openings

For standard Toros, it was optional: Y70 Paint Accent Stripe ($10.53)

STRIPING COLORS
COLOR CODES/COLOR NAME/DITZLER CODE

A,B - Black (9000)
C,A - White (8631)
D,C - Blue (14022)
G,H - Gold (23197)
R - Red (2089)

thanks Carmen and Doc. I have asked the editor to do a sidebar update to the article in the next issue of the Front Wheel Driver.

torogt wrote:I also really enjoyed the articles on the W34 cars! I have a 1970 GT that was originally azure blue, how do I determine the color of the stripes due to the fact that the car has been repainted and the stripes are now gone?

I do not believe there is a way to tell which stripes your car originally had but the choices would have been White, Black or Blue if I remember correctly. There is no indication on the ID plate that denotes that information.

I can check the chart I have and if the choices are different I'll let you know.

Since my car came azure blue paint code 20 with the C behind it for a dark blue vinyl top could we assume the stripes would also be blue?

torogt wrote:Since my car came azure blue paint code 20 with the C behind it for a dark blue vinyl top could we assume the stripes would also be blue?

That is an assumption that cannot be made as I have seen original cars where the stripes did not match the top color.

I'd make them blue to "bring it all together" though

There is no designation on the body/cowl plate for Pin or GT striping (in/of that era) of any kind as they were an Olds final assembily add on. The is no rhyme or reason as to how colors were chosen, Yes GM/Olds had its recommended combinations, but some of what I have seen in database would leave one scratching their head..........but ... if you got the money honey they'll build one for you!

Inclosed is the 70 gt with LT Blue GT wheel wells, (the only one in captivity) other than B/W, and when compared to other example it does not appear to be painted correctly. The large strip does not fill out around the opening (its not as pronounced as the others) and small strip is away from the larger so hence my skepticism. If you do a search of the 70 gt, it painfully apparent that repaints have wiped out many GT striping. And one blue in a sea of black /white does not make it so. This by no means discounts what the documentation states as to colors used, it only states they are not present in the database.

As for automotive mileposts, I have a few word to say about them but not at this time.