Brand new Olds Toronado owner

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Francois
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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Francois » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:55 pm

Hi !
It's been a long time, I'm still working on my car and things are starting to look better. I'm waiting for a last package and I should be able to see if the engine is running fine :)
I still have to put the distributor back, connect the fuel line to the carburetor, put the power steering pump back and connect the radiator and all the pipes... I'm quite impatient to take the car for a ride !
I may have some questions soon but for now here are some pictures :
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Otto Skorzeny
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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Otto Skorzeny » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:38 pm

That looks really nice.

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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Francois » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:18 am

Hi,
I need you help, I'm trying to figure out where every vacuum line goes.
My Toro have just a heater and no AC, no K19 either.
From what I saw on the book, I would say Dashpot on the red, the blue that is going to the transmission goes to the green but I have a tee here. So does the vacuum advance goes on the tee too ? Or to the yellow ?
It's not very clear to me, and the yellow have a bigger diameter than the other ones.
I have plugged them all right know to set the timing of the engine.
Thanks,
François.
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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Otto Skorzeny » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:20 am

Francois, I'll see if I have any pictures of my engine to help you. My car is currently not at home and I won't get it back for a couple weeks. I don't remember where all those lines go.

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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Otto Skorzeny » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:25 am

On my '66, the yellow one remains plugged.

The red does not go to the dashpot it goes somewhere up front. Sorry I don't have better pictures to follow it all the way.

The green one does appear to be going to the transmission on my car. I don't think I have a Tee in that position.

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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Tuco » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:54 am

Copied from the Corvette Forums on early Q-jet carbs:
“The stock routing for the vacuum advance is to use a "ported vacuum" source for the vacuum advance. A ported vacuum source produces no vacuum signal at idle, but produces normal vacuum signal once the throttle blades are opened up just a tad. The ported vacuum source on the early Q-Jets is the port on the forward, driver's side of the carb just above the idle mixture screw. All other ports on the Q-Jet are direct manifold vacuum.”

The red circle is direct manifold vacuum. If it were me I would put the transmission line there. Take the tee off and run the vac advance to ported vacuum.

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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Otto Skorzeny » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:59 am

Here are some crappy pictures that will probably confuse you even more. The car is at my mom's house and it would be too confusing for me to try to explain to her what to do to find the lines.

Yes, the port on the top front of the carb of my car is going to the vac advance.

I can't tell where the one on the back right corner is going.
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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Otto Skorzeny » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:03 am

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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Francois » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:23 pm

Great, I think that now I understand everything, tell me if I'm wrong :)
So it seems that the vacuum on that bolt at the rear of the carburetor is a part of a 67 CCC option so it should not be here. The throttle dashpot should be connected to the intake manifold just next to the fuel outlet but it doesn't matter because they are both direct vacuum. As the one in green on my picture.
I'll post some new pictures soon !

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Re: Brand new Olds Toronado owner

Postby Otto Skorzeny » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:31 am

What's the CCC option? Whatever it is I'm pretty sure my car doesn't have it.

All '66 Toros have that vacuum port through the bolt in the back right corner. I don't remember where it goes on my car - maybe its for the headlights or heater vent doors? My car does not have ac either.


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